Diskussioun:Pierre Maisonnet
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[Quelltext änneren]I don't think there was a son Pierre-François Maisonnet, although Neyen mentions him in 1860 in the Biographie Luxembourgeoise, which was later repeated by others. But as archivist Fernand Emmel stated in 1988 there have been quite some mix-ups in the past. Unfortunately there are some mistakes in his article (p. 102-103) as well. Neyen claims Pierre-François Maisonnet was "professeur de dessin à Luxembourg, puis à Echternach (…) Il est décédé a Echternach, en juillet 1826." The only Maisonnets who died in Echternach in 1826 were professeur de dessin François-Joseph Maisonnet († March 1826) and his daugther Marguerithe. As far as I know no-one has been able to find a birth or death date of the so called son Pierre-François Maisonnet.
Plot twist: I believe Pierre Maisonnet = Pierre-François Maisonnet. He wasn't born in October 1750 though. According to his death certificate in April 1827 he was 73 at that time. That means he was probably born around 1754. And indeed there was a Petrus Franciscus baptisted November 28th, 1755, son of Petri Mesmain and Margaretha Rodenmacher. His parents are most likeley the same as Petrus Maijsonet en Magdalena Rodenmacher, who married in July 1750 and were named Petri Maisonnette and Margaretha Rodenmacher when they baptised a son Petrus in October 1750.
When Pierre a.k.a. Pierre-François Maisonnet had his sons baptised he is mentioned as Petri Francisci Maisonet (1783), Petri Francisci Maisonet (1786) and Petri Maisenet (1791). The last and perhaps most telling piece of the puzzle is the signature of the painter himself, on several occasions he signed as Pierre François Maisonet (1786) and P F Maisonet (1817).
So, when Luxemburger Wort wrote "Das schadhafte Oelgemälde wurde nach 1804 ersetzt durch einen „Johannes in der Wüste,“ eine Kopie Raffaels von dem luxemburger Maler Pierre-François Maisonnet († 1826)." they only had the name right. ;)
What are your thoughts on this? Ronn (Diskussioun) 18:52, 19. Jan. 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, Ronn, impressive research; nothing from me to add. Regards, -- Zinneke (Diskussioun) 11:23, 20. Jan. 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, Zinneke. I informed MNAHA about the mix-up. In their reply they showed me some transcriptions from Les peintres et peinture dans le duché de Luxembourg au XVIIIe siècle written by Henri Carême and issued in 2023 by the museum. Carême wrote that the painter married in Antwerp 1782, and indeed I found him mentioned in the marriage certificates as Petrus Franciscus Maisonet (signed Pierre Maisonet). That adds to my theory. Like me Carême believes that the parents of the painter are "maître-horloger Pierre Maisonet (1706-1776) et Marguerite Rodenmacher (1719-1785)".
- They're not willing to change the info in the Lëtzebuerger Konschtlexikon yet, because Carême states "le 17 octobre 1750, Pierre Maisonet naquit en ville" and "P. Maisonet s'éteignit le 29 avril 1827 à l'age de 76 ans". As I wrote above, the death certificate says: "Pierre Maisonnet âgé de soixante treize ans, peintre". To be continued... Ronn (Diskussioun) 18:30, 31. Jan. 2025 (UTC) PS I think Carême is right in preferring the last name Maisonet to Maisonnet, but that is not the point I was making.
- I just received an email from the MNAHA, mr. Carême agrees the younger child is the painter. (He was born in 1755, I previously made an error myself by mentioning 1754.) Ronn (Diskussioun) 10:59, 3. Feb. 2025 (UTC)