Benotzer Diskussioun:Wolverène/Archiv/2016–18

Moie Wolverène/Archiv/2016–18, wëllkomm op der Wikipedia op Lëtzebuergesch! Villmools Merci fir Äert Intressi un der Wikipedia! Mir schaffen hei zesummen dorun, eng fräi zougänglech, gratis, neutral a méiglechst ausféierlech Enzyklopedie a Lëtzebuerger Sprooch op d'Been ze setzen. All Mataarbecht ass wëllkomm, déi dëst Zil méi no bréngt: sief dat, en Tippfeeler ze verbesseren, eng Informatioun dobäizesetzen oder z'aktualiséieren, oder carrement en neien Artikel ze schreiwen! Fir datt d'Artikelen e Minimum un Eenheetlechkeet hunn, an och, fir Krittären ze hunn, wat heihi gehéiert a wat net, hu mer eis eng Rëtsch Reegelen oder Konventioune ginn. Wann Dir hei ganz nei sidd, huelt Iech wgl. een Ament Zäit, fir hei drënner ze liesen, wéi een déi éischt Schrëtt mécht. Loosst Iech awer net doduerch ofschrecken: et ass manner komplizéiert, wéi et op den éischte Bléck ausgesäit! Aner Mataarbechter paken och am Ufank gär eng Hand mat un, wat Formatéierungen oder Zweiwele mat der Orthographie ubelaangt. Et gëtt keen hei gestengegt, wann e sech iert ;-) Déi wichtegst "Reegel" ass: "Sief kéng!" Éischt Schrëtt An e puer Schrëtt léieren, wéi een en Artikel uleet oder ännert. Sandkaul Fir mam Layout z'experimentéieren, ouni "richteg" Säiten op d'Kopp ze geheien. Reegelen a Konventiounen Rotschléi fir dëst an dat. Staminee Fir Froen oder Commentairen iwwer d'Wikipedia. Wat Wikipedia net ass Dacks gemaacht Feeler oder Mëssverständnesser. Dacks gestallt Froen (FAQ) Äntwerten op déi heefegst Froen. Wéi ee Lëtzebuergesch schreift Eis Schreifweis einfach an an e puer Punkten erkläert. Dës Säit ass Är perséinlech Diskussiounssäit. All Mataarbechter huet sou eng, an et ass d'Plaz, fir Messagë vun anere Mataarbechter ze kréien, resp. ze hannerloossen. Wëllt Dir engem anere Mataarbechter schreiwen, maacht dat op senger Diskussiounssäit, an ënnerschreift mat 4 Tilden (sou: ~~~~) oder klickt op e Knäppche wéi deen hei: . Ofgeschéckt gëtt da mam Klicken op "Säit späicheren". Vill Spaass, an op eng gutt Zesummenaarbecht!

--Jwh (Diskussioun) 22:14, 25. Jun. 2016 (UTC)

• Oh Merci Jwh!:) --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 22:55, 25. Jun. 2016 (UTC)

IMDb

Moien et ass jo ganz flott datt Dir lo eng IMDb-Schabloun wëllt maachen. Mä sou lanng wéi mer keng fäerdegbréngen déi richteg ugeluecht ass an/oder deenen an den anere Wikien entsprécht ass et besser d'Fangeren dervun ze loossen. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 16:16, 21. Sep. 2016 (UTC)

Schreiffeeler

Endemesch kritt just 1 "e". --Soued031 (Diskussioun) 07:36, 2. Dez. 2016 (UTC)

Got it. Some people used double "e". --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 09:20, 2. Dez. 2016 (UTC)

Gouf geréckelt an an den Artikele verbessert. Et stoung dommerweis a fréieren Artikele falsch. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 09:29, 2. Dez. 2016 (UTC)

I see, thanks. :) --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 09:32, 2. Dez. 2016 (UTC)

Good job, both of you. ;) --Soued031 (Diskussioun) 13:27, 2. Dez. 2016 (UTC)

Why now extremen Osten? Is this a new luxemburgish expression we didn't know? Is it new since some days?

--Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 16:08, 30. Dez. 2016 (UTC)

It was fixed from "fären" by one of the users (I'll clarify by whom exactly) + it was already used in some pages. I tried to ask for comment about "Fären/Extremen Osten" but no one reacted or spoke out contra ... --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 16:27, 30. Dez. 2016 (UTC)

*ahem* --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 16:29, 30. Dez. 2016 (UTC)

I see now :-)

that was a bad idea fron Jwh too. Only for example (en)→ Far East, (de)→ Ferner Osten, (nl)→ Verre Osten. The translation for the german Ferne is Fär or even Färend and the adjective fern is translated by fär or fären. Luxemburgers don't like the extremes even if they are far. Spend a good New Year's Eve --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 17:18, 30. Dez. 2016 (UTC)

OK, let it remains "Fären" then. Happy Holidays you too.:) --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 17:46, 30. Dez. 2016 (UTC)

Good job

Wéi stells du dech u fir Lëtzebuergesch ze schreiwen/verstoen? An och du méchs eng gutt Aarbecht ;). --Soued031 (Diskussioun) 13:54, 7. Jan. 2017 (UTC)

Hello, thanks. ;) I'm learning the language by myself, just reading the Luxembourgish texts everyday with dictionary and in course of time I'm starting to understand what's written. Of course, my skills aren't still excellent enough.

I'm happy contributing here. I have many free time for now because I'm just a student and have no regular work, so someday I'll might not be so active as now. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 14:22, 7. Jan. 2017 (UTC)

Do not hesitate to go on with creating pages of sportspeople from Luxembourg as long as th3ey are relevant, means playing in a national team independently of the sport. Just for your information ' huet seng Profiscarrière 1997 ugefaangen? means 'has started his professional carrier in 1997', if you would like to refer to the sports-carrier you should replace 'Profiscarrière' with 'Sportscarrière'. best regards from sunny Luxembourg. --Robby (Diskussioun) 14:38, 9. Abr. 2017 (UTC)

Hello Robby. I wish I'd create some more articles about Luxembourgian athletes, there are definitely many of those who haven't mentioned here.

I might replace the word but actually I meant a start of professional carrer, most of athletes get previously started as amateurs in childhood. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 18:48, 9. Abr. 2017 (UTC)

Gielercher

== Gielercher == or ==Gielercher== gives the same result and so needs no special correction.

I know, this is just a habit from ruwp: the code looks neater, in some sense. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 09:49, 16. Abr. 2017 (UTC)

renaming

after your change you ask in your comment: like in German? or maybe better call it 'Schlësselbuerg'?..

So, I tell you an old rule or saying: If you don't know what to do, so do nothing. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 11:15, 16. Abr. 2017 (UTC)

I meant if it is a good way to use the German name for a random Russian town... The origin of the name is definitely German but how may it be "reflected" in Luxembourgish? Better to calque the name from Russian if not normalized. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 11:31, 16. Abr. 2017 (UTC)

may be better :) -Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 12:23, 16. Abr. 2017 (UTC)

Its nice that you want to help but the Cutter Lemma should be resolved by the author J Chicago who is mostly involved in films. And please if possible no redirect with missspellings. Thank you --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 12:29, 18. Abr. 2017 (UTC)

"Film-Editeur" was already in the main article. Yes I saw that this spelling was not in a "High German way" so I wanted to know what you or Zinneke would decide.. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 12:34, 18. Abr. 2017 (UTC)

And which else meaning "Monteur" has? Monteur of films and Monteur in building (like in original French)? Then obvious. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 12:39, 18. Abr. 2017 (UTC)

Oh I see you got it --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 12:49, 18. Abr. 2017 (UTC)

I think that J. Chicago was contacted by User: Sprachraum. So let him a chance to read, to notice and take his decisions. If he doesn't react in 8 days there is still time enough to rename and to make a correct redirect. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 12:55, 18. Abr. 2017 (UTC)

Hi, normaly articles about towns or villages need en Infobox --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 11:06, 20. Abr. 2017 (UTC)

For next creations I'll try to create such templates.

Is there an "universal" infobox or there should be created ones for every country? --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 11:11, 20. Abr. 2017 (UTC)

Yes, there is one: Schabloun:Infobox Uertschaft --81.244.214.219 11:23, 20. Abr. 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 11:25, 20. Abr. 2017 (UTC)

see please also Schabloun:Infobox Land --81.244.214.219 10:09, 21. Abr. 2017 (UTC)

Hi Émile is the french spelling of the name. --81.244.214.129 13:53, 10. Jun. 2017 (UTC)

Yes I know, most of Luxembourgers bear French names. Many sources show the name with é. Is Emile is definitely the main name? --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 13:56, 10. Jun. 2017 (UTC)

Without certificate of birth you can't know. So it may bee Emile, Émile or Emil. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 05:46, 11. Jun. 2017 (UTC)

Giovanni Prinzi

Hi Wolverène, I wanted to tell you that in the page of the artist Giovanni Prinzi, that you yourself have improved very well, misses a note about his artistic style

As for the artist's style, it is said to be influenced by Egon Schiele. What do you say? Do you have to write or do you like this? --> https://www.gigarte.com/giovanniprinzi/biografia

--Piii888 (Diskussioun) 10:46, 8. Jul. 2017 (UTC)

• Like this?

My inner vocabulary is limited to write in Luxembourgish fluently, so I'm afraid I can't improve it more. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 11:00, 8. Jul. 2017 (UTC)

You did well, when I find other news I let you know. --Piii888 (Diskussioun) 11:15, 8. Jul. 2017 (UTC)

Transcription of Russian to Luxembourgish

Hi Wolverène how do you transcribe Russian to English? Do you have a list? --Soued031 (Diskussioun) 10:30, 22. Jul. 2017 (UTC)

Moien, if I may: esou. Best, --Zinneke (Diskussioun) 13:49, 22. Jul. 2017 (UTC)

• Zinneke told you right. See also Wikipedia:Nummkonventiounen/Kyrillesch. For Russian to English see en:Romanization of Russian (Road signs/Passport 2013). --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 14:42, 22. Jul. 2017 (UTC)

Hello

The voice you have about this artist on the Luxembourg version is also made on wikipedia.en

Link---> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Prinzi

--151.19.61.178 17:08, 22. Jul. 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of Pedro Fernando

I think this article needs to be deleted. The creator of the article is abusing multiple accounts on Portuguese Wikipedia to promote the autobiography. Also, the autobiography was deleted on other wikis, like Simple Wikipedia. 2804:18:6806:20DF:1:3:3A1:5C80 16:06, 25. Jul. 2017 (UTC)

• I've seen your explanation already, I'm not against the deletion now. Best, --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 16:07, 25. Jul. 2017 (UTC)

I'm not an admin

Hy Wolveréne I see you struggeling with an ... :). I don't know the rights of an admin but I'm pretty sure he can massively delete pages ;). So I wouldn't play to much with this ... :p. --Soued031 (Diskussioun) 21:57, 30. Jul. 2017 (UTC)

• Of course such an "article throwing" is terrible thing but it's not a big deal 'cause I expanded/normalized all the pages that were created. The problem is in time spending, no more. A big number of articles is nice too. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 22:02, 30. Jul. 2017 (UTC)

P.S. "what do you mean by gutt?" - surely I meant good as a trait, not-evil... may it be ambiguous in Luxembourgish? --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 22:10, 30. Jul. 2017 (UTC)

I'll ask Benotzer:Les Meloures as soon as I can contact him. I only know "positiv" as a word for know. --Soued031 (Diskussioun) 22:37, 30. Jul. 2017 (UTC)

positiv/negativ is even better. Difficulties of translation : my language allows thinking in categories kind/evil and good/bad ; positive/negative is more usable for humans. In short, no need to contact, I agree to fix. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 22:45, 30. Jul. 2017 (UTC)

Bois du Cazier

You delated my lynk because "this protocol has quite indirect relation to the mine and its victims " I do not agree with you. This protocol has deep roots with this tragedy. But i will not cancel your revert (i hope some one will do dat). Cordialement --Cenec (Diskussioun) 09:46, 8. Aug. 2017 (UTC)

• Italian workers weren't the only who died there. The problem was not in that Italy or several another countries sent workers to Belgium, the problem was in deplorable condition of mining technology in Belgium. The protocol shows the reason why Italians worked there, but as far as I know there are many Italian work immigrants and their descendants in Belgium so it shouldn't be surprising. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 10:34, 8. Aug. 2017 (UTC)

• Si vous le dites c'est que c'est vrai. (You sai dat, so it is true) --Cenec (Diskussioun) 06:23, 9. Aug. 2017 (UTC)

Booland

What do you mean by Booland o.o?--Soued031 (Diskussioun) 17:46, 31. Aug. 2017 (UTC)

• ...exactly what I meant.:) I think this is same with {{Both}} created by you. Look at interwiki list on wikidata:Q5863317. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 17:51, 31. Aug. 2017 (UTC)
• nice thanks ;).--85.94.240.142 18:05, 31. Aug. 2017 (UTC)

Deletion

Instead of putting the deletion template straight away, I would suggest you to ask the creator of such templates i.e. me. If the template of Romance languages is incomplete, you can tell it to me on my discussion page and I will try to complete it but writing "just a random set, better to use the category instead" is your personal opinion and you can check all other templates and see that not all languages appear on them. Stating that the template about the history of Luxembourg is "a mess with all that came to creator's mind" show how little you respect others' work. You could have taken the time to check the English one, and you will see that the articles in the Luxembourgish template are almost all of the ones that appear on the English version. Wikipedia is a group project, so talking to other collaborators and showing some respect would be great. Thank you. --Katxis (Diskussioun) 07:38, 6. Sep. 2017 (UTC)

Hello Katxis, Soued031 here not Wolverène. I'm on board with you that Wolverène's wording isn't the best but I defend his position as I also do think that a lot is missing comparing to the "english source material". I also have the problem that at the moment I'm the only person adapting Infoboxes and (later on) Navboxes into the "enlgish lua format". Making new navboxes that don't use "the new system" gives me more work and this work makes no sense if the luxembourgish navbox isn't on pair with or better than the english one. If you plan on creating navboxes in the new format that would be great 👌. But I do have a hard time when someone talks about "respect" and removes a delete proposal that hasn't even been proposed yet on our page. We usually take time to do this on purpose in case someone would improve it. I also don't remember that a user on another Wikipedia told me once that my work will be removed, undone or has to be improved. --Soued031 (Diskussioun) 08:48, 6. Sep. 2017 (UTC)

It would be OK in vertical form as in the English Wikipedia and as it is now, but in original "horizontal" form it looked like forcemeat with Duchy of Luxembourg, Marie-Adélaïde and WWII Resistance in one row.
"A random set" is not an opinion, this pretends to be a fact because there are many more both Germanic and Romance languages, dead/moribund and living ones, all of them are classified. Why you didn't ask the community before? --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 09:30, 6. Sep. 2017 (UTC)

• Why? I was going to translate. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 09:31, 6. Sep. 2017 (UTC)

I think he plans on doing it with the "new system" ;) you can translate it afterward or correct his errors that would be great so we could contribute to achiving the first "sidebar with collapsible lists" after our "kids battle" 😂. It would be great Katxis when you coud tell Wolverène when you think you are done translating or you don't know how to translate certain things--Soued031 (Diskussioun) 09:39, 6. Sep. 2017 (UTC)

For your information Wolverène, Katxis said this: Please let me try to finish it and once I am done, we will see if there is need for changing. --Soued031 (Diskussioun) 10:05, 6. Sep. 2017 (UTC)

OK. I'm stopping right now. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 10:07, 6. Sep. 2017 (UTC)

Hi again, could you please translate this?

• Louis XIV's siege
• Austrian rule
• Siege of Luxembourg (1794–95)
• Revolutionary siege
• German occupation of Luxembourg during World War I
• Invasion of Luxembourg
• German invasion

Thank you. --Katxis (Diskussioun) 10:21, 6. Sep. 2017 (UTC)

• • Belagerung vum Louis XIV
  • Éisträichesch Regel Herrschaft
  • Belagerung vu Lëtzebuerg (1794–95)
  • Revolutiounsbelagerung
  • Däitsch Occupatioun vu Lëtzebuerg am Zweete Weltkrich
  • Invasioun zu Lëtzebuerg
  • Invasioun vun Däitschland

--Wolverène (Diskussioun) 10:25, 6. Sep. 2017 (UTC)

Should be fine now, could you take a look just to proofread it please? --Katxis (Diskussioun) 10:30, 6. Sep. 2017 (UTC)

More-or-less good, I'll add more correction an hour later. Thanks. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 10:37, 6. Sep. 2017 (UTC)

I've proofread. Plus I replaced Regel with Herrschaft [everywhere], "Regel" has some another meanings. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 12:49, 6. Sep. 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. --Katxis (Diskussioun) 12:53, 6. Sep. 2017 (UTC)

Police-Roman oder Polizei-Roman, dat ass eng Fro, ob ee méi no der däitscher oder franséischer Säit kuckt. Ech hunn 10 Joer an Däitschland gelieft, dofir gebrauchen ech éischter däitsch Termen – an dat war elo ewollt eng Vermëschung vun den zwee Sproochen, sou wéi bei villen Nimm: Franséische Virnumm an däitsche Familljennumm.

Fri(e)sesch

Don't worry when Les Meloures is back we will discuss what to do with this word. --Soued031 (Diskussioun) 11:58, 11. Sep. 2017 (UTC)

• Personally I'd support the spelling 'Frisesch', it's not German-like.:) --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 12:05, 11. Sep. 2017 (UTC)

Congrats

You made it to 15 sec. of fame in an article ;-) --Zinneke (Diskussioun) 16:12, 12. Sep. 2017 (UTC) PS and thanks for your impressive number of contributions on sports people.

• Actually I've just listened it for several times, nobody ever told about me on the air! I'm happy.

Unfortunately I didn't start the pages about female footballers, baseball players and cricketers. I know that cricket is popular in Luxembourg. So those athletes are only the start. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 18:09, 12. Sep. 2017 (UTC)

Baseball and cricket are surely not mainstream. In fact I have no idea about any performances of their national teams; I don't want to exclude that they may be 'world famous' within their circle, however.

No they aren't world-famous. Seems that the Luxembourgian baseball team is inactive since early 2010s. All that can be easily found is the roster of BC Red Sappers, with some players such as Sam Fisch that may be [more-or-less/relatively/with reservations] relevant for Wikipedia.

List of cricketers are here. Almost all of them are of Anglo-Saxon or Indian descent, strange but for some reason I've been confused about it. Maybe I'll create pages about them later. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 22:45, 13. Sep. 2017 (UTC)

Transliteration

Hi, where can I find the exact transliteration for the diphtongues я, є, ий, ій, ї, йо, ю --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 18:29, 27. Okt. 2017 (UTC)

• Moien och, de:Umschrift des ukrainischen kyrillischen Alphabets#Tabellen zu den verschiedenen Umschrift- und Romanisierungsvarianten.

So those diphtongues should look like ja, [j]e, yj, ij, ji, jo, ju. Similar to the transliteration from Russian, but "й" at the end saving and displaying on writing. I don't know why, "ending" й is pronouncing in both languages.... --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 18:39, 27. Okt. 2017 (UTC)

I had a look on de:Umschrift des ukrainischen kyrillischen Alphabets before asking you.

I could not find precisions for those diphtongues. An ukrainian friend told me that actually there is no transliteration for. Is he right?

You say:those diphtongues should look like. So my question is:should they only look like or have they to look like?

--Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 20:30, 27. Okt. 2017 (UTC)

I think that the transliteration of я/ї/йо/ю is more or less certain ("j*" everywhere). є - I don't know if it's always "je", or "je" only at junctions of syllables and "e" in other positions.

ий, ій : I'm not sure about "should" or "have to", depends on tendencies in Luxembourgish (unfortunately seems that there's lack of tendencies). If we will do like in German, "j" should be saved in order to translate a Ukrainian name, but if it's easier for a Luxembourgish speaker to reduce "j" on writing, we may reach an agreement. For me it's not a problem, I just tried to follow the German way of transliteration.

What does he mean saying "no transliteration"? Would he keep Cyrillic names untranslated? or he just didn't hear about certain rules in Luxembourgish? --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 21:11, 27. Okt. 2017 (UTC)

he says that for the diphtongues there is no equivalent transliteration, and that for german, luxemburgish or french iy an ij makes not a big sense and that even for lb or fr Anatole me be correct. I will try to get a formal position by a linguist. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 21:41, 27. Okt. 2017 (UTC)

I don't think he's right. It is good if you can contact a linguist. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 21:47, 27. Okt. 2017 (UTC)

Re:

Indeed, so you agree with deletion: all of sources are self-written. It's a case of long-term crosswiki abuse, I lot the count of that user's locked sockpuppets. --Vituzzu (Diskussioun) 17:50, 10. Nov. 2017 (UTC)

• I just was/am not sure that it can be done in such a case so simply. I re-wrote that page so it didn't look spam-like, other reasons are discussable (I didn't really pay attention that the sources are self-written or smth) --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 17:58, 10. Nov. 2017 (UTC)

Even more important (some wikis have millions of pages but they completely unsurveilled) lb.wiki has 4 active admins, so my deletion can be reviewed by them who can, indeed, whitelist it from title blacklist. Honestly I think you're giving trust to the wrong person who proved too many times to act in bad faith. Looking into sources there are 5 external links:

• first one is a webnode.it site containing a single page, webnode is a free hosting site
• second link, as above, wixsite.com free hosting
• third link: gigarte.com Portale d'arte che offre grande visibilità nel mondo artistico e la possibilità di creare gratuitamente il proprio sito personale semplice, veloce e personalizzabile. which translates to art porta offering [...] and the possibility to create a free personal website, simple, free and customisable.
• fourth one: arte.it advertising free and not free directoring service
• fifth one: same link as number 3.
• --Vituzzu (Diskussioun) 18:11, 10. Nov. 2017 (UTC)
  • Well, thank you for explanation. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 18:21, 10. Nov. 2017 (UTC)

You're welcome, there are many spammers around so I often have to choose the fastest way to act, though it may rise some legit doubts/objections, though the possibility for local admins to review these actions are a good counterbalancing element, cheers! --Vituzzu (Diskussioun) 12:50, 11. Nov. 2017 (UTC)

Zander

Hi. Wikidata says that she has now the Luxembourg nationality. But I ignore whether this is true or just a mistake based on the fact that she lives now here. --Otets ♣ 21:02, 22. Nov. 2017 (UTC)

• Hi, I did not go into details how much nationalities she has (1, 2 or 3). I just decided that most of her activity associated with her American citizenship. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 21:06, 22. Nov. 2017 (UTC)
• P.S. Is it possible to live in Luxembourg without actual naturalization? --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 21:08, 22. Nov. 2017 (UTC)

She did her TV career in the USA, but I believe that as journalist she mostly worked during the time she was still in Russia (with Russian nationality). You can have a residence permit in Luxembourg for various reasons, for instance for work, family reunification, marriage, etc. I ignore whether her mother was allowed to come here and she followed (unlikely, because if I remember right she should then be unable to work) or whether it was the other way round that she married here and her mother followed her. On Wikidata they indicated her Facebook, LinkedIn, Rodovid and Odnoklassniki profile, maybe there she disclosed further info (I must close down for today, but will follow up another day). --Otets ♣ 21:19, 22. Nov. 2017 (UTC)

We may try to add two more nationality categories but it still needs to be clarified better, without social networking pages or with them (they are not always good). --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 21:26, 22. Nov. 2017 (UTC)

If she has the Luxembourg nationality, there must be a ministerial order who gave it. Such orders are published and may be found in the law publishing pages. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 09:13, 24. Nov. 2017 (UTC)

You may just call her and ask her. Now to my own inet search: I did not find anything on Memorial A or B about a "Zander", "Sander" or "Shakhnazarova" that would fit in here and document a nationality change - but unfortunately that does not mean anything since I counterchecked by searching for peope where I know for sure that they changed their nationality and I could not find there anything either. ozon.ru writes about step-father Aleksin "С июня 2011 года он вместе с женой Татьяной Алексиной переехал из Израиля в Люксембург, где живет дочь Алена Зандер.", which makes believe that Aliona was first to move to Luxembourg. --Otets ♣ 15:17, 24. Nov. 2017 (UTC)

You may just call her. Why don't you do, you speak better russian than me. !!!!

We think, we mean, we suppose, we believe, but we don't know. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 16:21, 24. Nov. 2017 (UTC)

She obviously speaks also English. But actually I meant Wolverène and not you, Les Meloures. Though, since it is now sure that she got married to a Luxembourger, the reason why she got a residence permit is now also clear and no need to "suppose" or "believe" any longer. If she came only in 2011 to Luxembourg, she may however not yet have gotten the nationality as naturalization requires even after the latest law change 7 years of residence (the question will pop up as from next year then). --Otets ♣ 09:35, 27. Nov. 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure it's worth to disturb person with unpredictable questions such as "We are from Wikipedia, asking you how many nationalities you have". (Plus calling from RUS to LUX costs ≈€0.7 a minute, several minutes of talking will ruin me 😅). It is not a #1 fact, we also may not to mention certain nationalities in the article at all. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 10:01, 27. Nov. 2017 (UTC)

Thanks/dank u

Etc It must have been an edit on commons that got me here, thanks for your welcome JarrahTree (Diskussioun) 08:10, 24. Nov. 2017 (UTC)

• Oh you can't imagine how I love to welcome new people..:) --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 08:55, 24. Nov. 2017 (UTC)

Privet! IMDb is the "Internet Movie Database". You may say that there is a factsheet in the database (an der IMDb), or you may consider that IMDb is a website, on (op) which you find the factsheet. --Otets ♣ 17:45, 11. Dez. 2017 (UTC)

• OK. I think it's more important that this is a website.
  ... And when I think about databases I imagine huge lists made with Microsoft Access.:) --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 18:04, 11. Dez. 2017 (UTC)

Louis le Prince

Hi,

Louis le Prince was never e Filmdirector. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 16:49, 27. Dez. 2017 (UTC)

• As author of his experimental films - he was. Maybe in that time there were no definite concepts such as "film director", "editor", "screenwriter" etc. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 16:52, 27. Dez. 2017 (UTC)

He is at least related as an engineer. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 16:55, 27. Dez. 2017 (UTC)

His real occupation, but technically authors of films become 'directors'. Other first cinematographers (incl. e.g. Thomas Edison) were engineers too, because there was no video production in a more modern sense.

Well, in the article about Roundhay Garden Scene we say "Stommfilm vum Ingenieur Louis Le Prince", category "Filmer vum L. Le Prince" also doesn't point that he was [allegedly] a director. What's for more common categories, if you still don't agree to call him director: instead of "Filmer vu brittesche Regisseuren" and "Filmer vu franséische Regisseuren" we may add "Filmer vun de Virleefer vum Film" (Wierker vun de Virleefer vum Film, Filmer vun de Virleefer vum Video"...) - what do you think? --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 17:14, 27. Dez. 2017 (UTC)

Please stop mowing wikidata from sportsmen to sportspeople. Its a quiet different category. Sportsmen are sportspeople but not all sportspeople are sportsmen. !!!! --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 12:10, 3. Jan. 2018 (UTC)

Les Meloures, we never normally differed Sportlerinnen from Sportler (unlike Schauspiller(innen) for example). Will you ever create separate categories for sportswomen? --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 16:52, 3. Jan. 2018 (UTC)

Yes we will create. But at first I try to organize the important wished categories, an eliminate the unimportant. Afterwards male and female categories will be done as far as there is e pendant on english Wiki or on commons. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 16:57, 3. Jan. 2018 (UTC)

Carla Juri

What and where are the problem with the article?

• First you tried to create it with auto translation, but shortly later you made some good edits so I replaced Delete-template with "Iwwerschaffen" (= Improve). The page is now short and contains some mistakes ("Notiz" or "Fernseh" aren't Luxembourgish words), but it's not really a big deal and I think one of the active user may help you someday. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 15:59, 10. Jan. 2018 (UTC)
  • I checked Notiz on the website http://www.lod.lu/.
    • and Fernseh too.Identiteit van Euler (Diskussioun) 16:05, 10. Jan. 2018 (UTC)
      • I would say "Nott" or "Commentaire" for en: note, and "Tëlee"/"Televisioun" for en: TV. Fernseh is a calque from German.

But yes, lod.lu has these words, I admit. Then, let me improve the article for an hour. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 16:10, 10. Jan. 2018 (UTC)

In the South of Luxembourg we say Fernseh, but never ever the hated Tëlee. On this wiki in 39 articles we find the word Fernseh, in 96 Tëlee, and in 226 Televisioun. In other terms, Televisioun is the most widespread on the wiki, but Fernseh is definetely not wrong but an accepted word (quoted also in the DFL). --Otets ♣ 10:31, 11. Jan. 2018 (UTC)

I think words like 'Fernseh' don't make Luxembougish a truly separate language in a perspective, better use synonyms of High German calques if possible. Although, I can't impose this opinion on Luxembourgers. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 18:09, 11. Jan. 2018 (UTC)

Handballspiller

Hi Wolwerène,

I really appreciate the great work you are doing on Handballplayers you are doing her e on lb-wikipedia and I really encourage you to go on with this really useful work. At first I thought that the list on http://web.archive.org/web/20170629041236/http://www.flh.lu/index.php?site=page&id=sats-1946-2016-28049 is a really reliable and complete source of the handballplayers of LUxembourg who played for our national team. But then it came in my mind that there was the handball player MIke Majerus (twin-brother of Tom Majerus) and handball goalkeeper and that he played as well for the national team. When I made some research on the internet I found this page: http://www.rtl.lu/sport/archiv/all/364889.html so at this moment he was the national handball player with most matches (games he participated in) and nevertheless he is not mentionned in the list. So I doubt whether this list is complete. Unfortunately I have no idea on where we could find more reliable information then the one available on http://web.archive.org/web/20170629041236/http://www.flh.lu/index.php?site=page&id=sats-1946-2016-28049

Best regards and many thanks for your efforts on this Robby (Diskussioun) 20:18, 22. Jan. 2018 (UTC)

Here is another link on the same gala match of Mike Majerus and there is mentionnned as well thaht he played for the national team: https://www.wort.lu/fr/sport/mike-majerus-berchem-triste-et-heureux-d-arreter-4fab8ae4e4b0d2706d4f226b# Robby (Diskussioun) 20:23, 22. Jan. 2018 (UTC)

Hello Robby. Thank you for your support and for the links you found (these are helpful). Actually he was mentionned; there are/were 3 tables at flh.lu, and the 2nd table is dedicated to goalkeepers. It shows that he played 147 matches since 1993 or some later.
Anyway there's a reason to expand the article about Tom Majerus, at least...
Of course it's not completed, for two years already.:) Strange but the newest version of flh.lu doesn't include this list (or it was relocated deeper in the sitemap). But I'm keeping an eye on national team newcomers on eurohandball.com, though unfortunately player profiles are not always available. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 20:40, 22. Jan. 2018 (UTC)

Ups, I missed thaht there were seperated lists for goalkeepers and trainers on the same page (shame on me). I noticed as well that these statistics are unfortunately no longer available on the website flh.lu Robby (Diskussioun) 20:53, 22. Jan. 2018 (UTC)

It's clear. Just want to say that any expanding of my articles are always welcomed, 'cause I'm planning to create these pages massively, without real detailed studies of their biographies. There are usually not too much information about 95% (maybe) of them, although it seems to me that handball is very popular in Luxembourg. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 21:04, 22. Jan. 2018 (UTC)

New Infobox Biographie (Sportler)

I replaced the old Infobox for sports(wo)man to the newer one Infobox Biographie (Sportler). At the moment we are still thinking about what to do out of Autoritéitskontroll (I think it won't be used for sports(wo)man). --Soued031 (Diskussioun) 13:33, 25. Jan. 2018 (UTC)

• I see, thank you and Les Meloures. Is there a difference between "sporting" and standard versions? apart from names. I just mean I didn't pay attention. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 17:37, 25. Jan. 2018 (UTC)

in German "hongkongisch" is ok word , thats right. But not everything that is ok in german is ok in luxemburgish. Also we don't categorise by towns. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 19:53, 26. Jan. 2018 (UTC)

Hong Kong is somewhat a city-state. But yes, in more common sense she's Chinese. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 19:56, 26. Jan. 2018 (UTC)

Don Star

1. one time voice actor is enough to be.
2. Imdb gives him as director. =(Regisseur)
3. He was starring in musicals, so he is alos a stage-actor.

--Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 19:21, 31. Jan. 2018 (UTC)

railway

Hi Wolverène, a word of explanation: "Eisebunnen" means railways (railway companies or networks) whereas "Eisebunner" is a person/persons working at a railway company. Best, --Zinneke (Diskussioun) 17:05, 23. Feb. 2018 (UTC)

• I see already, strange that there's still no category for railway workers.--Wolverène (Diskussioun) 17:48, 23. Feb. 2018 (UTC)

Yes there is one: ---Kategorie:Eisebunnspersonal--- Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 10:00, 6. Mäe. 2018 (UTC)

It's [rather] for occupations. I'd like to create exactly for personalities {{{1}}}. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 18:00, 6. Mäe. 2018 (UTC)

What do you mean by personalities and how would you name this cat? --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 18:07, 6. Mäe. 2018 (UTC)

Kategorie:Eisebunner. Everyone who works/-ed on railway transport. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 18:11, 6. Mäe. 2018 (UTC)

Medžuslovjansky

Moien! (That's about half of the Lëtzebuergesch I remember from the 1.5 year I've lived there)

You are right that Medžuslovjanski will probably generate more ghits than Medžuslovjansky. I'll try to explain. In the years 2006-2011 the working title of the project was Slovianski. In 2009 a second, very similar, project appeared, called Novoslovienskij (later: Novoslověnsky). In 2011 these two project (and a third one, Slovioski) merged into a new, more flexible umbrella language called Medžuslovjanski. After that merger, Slovianski and Slovioski were no longer developed as separate projects, but on the other hand, Novoslověnsky kept a certain autonomy. In 2017 it was decided that working with two similar yet not identical standards was inconvenient, confusing an impractical, and so we started to compare both projects and eliminate the differences. One of the outcomes was that the change Y > I after K/G/H (typical for Russian, Polish and Sorbian, and also present in Slovianski) was abolished, and so, -ski became -sky. Because that change was made in the Summer of 2017, it's not surprising that Google still gives more results for the older form.

As for the pronuncation of y, this depends pretty much on the speaker. [ɨ] is absolutely acceptable, but so are [ɪ] and [i]. The spelling of Interslavic is more etymological than that it represents the exact pronunciation.

BTW I gave you the links to the corresponding articles in the Russian Wikipedia, but those are hopelessly outdated, unfortunately.

Cheers, IJzeren Jan (Diskussioun) 13:15, 25. Feb. 2018 (UTC)

• OK, I see. Good luck to your project. If not secret, are there plans to request the ISO 639 code for Medžuslovjansky in a future? --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 19:51, 25. Feb. 2018 (UTC)
  • Thank you. Actually, such request has already been made and turned down twice. The first time with the argument that it was not clear to the Registration Authority that Interslavic was one language. The second time they wrote: "[...] although there is some unification, it does not have a well-developed or long history. It is a simplified pan-Slavic language. Although it is being taught in a few places, there is not yet a substantial literature or user community or intergenerational transmission of the language. Because of this, Interslavic does not qualify for a separate code under ISO 639-3. Should it continue to develop standardization and literature and users, with evidence of being passed to another generation, it can be resubmitted for a code."[1] Which is kind of odd, if you ask me, considering that only a few years ago they added languages like Neo, Talossan, Lingua Franca Nova and Kotava, all of which are much more limited in scope and have much less users (if any). I am not optimistic, though. My feeling is that they are afraid of being overflooded with constructed languages, and from what I've been able to detect, "intergenerational transfer" has become a conditio sine qua non according to the new criteria for admission. If that is true, Esperanto would be the only constructed language that qualifies, and the chances for other languages to obtain a code are close to zero. Cheers, IJzeren Jan (Diskussioun) 22:29, 25. Feb. 2018 (UTC)
    • It's clear. I also think that situation with providing codes for Talossan and Kotava is really ridiculous, IMHO Interslavic have to be more winning idea. At least, as a native speaker of a Slavic language, I really undestand all that's written in Interslavic and it means success.:) Then you just need to wait. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 23:59, 25. Feb. 2018 (UTC)

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I did not say that his (her) action was harmful.

If it was not, why did you revert two times. ????

• The user updated the image, I wasn't happy about either previous or user's image and I replaced with another/third one. There was the only revert afterwards, I think it was just a simple misunderstanding.

I only meant it wasn't test editing, so I replaced warning template with welcoming. Nobody was wrong! --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 18:44, 9. Abr. 2018 (UTC)

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Bloemfontein

Bloemfontein" ass warscheinlech eng hollännesch Wuert a bedeit "Blummebur

It's not warscheinlech that Bloemfontein means Blummebur. It is sure. But that hits not completely the explanation about the town's name. --109.134.86.190 11:18, 30. Abr. 2018 (UTC)

Kategorie:Protestantismus would be nice 'cause there's no categories for protestant pastors

but Kategorie:protestantesch Theologen is included in Kategorie:Protestantismus.--Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 17:54, 6. Mee 2018 (UTC)

Pastors are preachers, theologians are scholars (sometimes secular). I added that category because of absense of what I need.:)

I can create category for pastors (Pastor or Paschtouer ? I see that Paschtouer = en:parson) . --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 18:03, 6. Mee 2018 (UTC)

be so kind to leave my article

sorry even if you are the first author its not your article. By publishing on wikipedia you have no rights on an article. --Nilrom (Diskussioun) 16:35, 17. Jun. 2018 (UTC)

Saying that I tried to prevent any disputes, I don't really try to disallow editing for anyone. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 16:43, 17. Jun. 2018 (UTC)

Untitled

There is no british National Team ass it seems in other Wikis --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 17:20, 30. Jun. 2018 (UTC)

As no United Kingdom national football team exists, so it can't have no players too.

please see here

--Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 17:25, 30. Jun. 2018 (UTC)

• For Italians exists. If other people never heard of the British team, we are powerless to tell them all.

How will you categorize persons which played there?? It may be a notable fact. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 17:36, 30. Jun. 2018 (UTC)

"No ... currently exists" (c) - just like Saar team. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 17:44, 30. Jun. 2018 (UTC)

Ok, so if articles of some players can't be categorized elsewhere I agree. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 17:55, 30. Jun. 2018 (UTC)

I wonder why you worry about finishing the article and not about the bad quality of its definition. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 19:03, 12. Jul. 2018 (UTC)

The template EnCours was remaining, and it's considered that nobody can edit the page while that template is at page. You removed the template and it's no longer a problem. (I'm not sure about the definition, it's shame but I never heard about the term of cohabitatioun. UPD: But I've just read it now.) --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 19:09, 12. Jul. 2018 (UTC)

---

Dear Wolverène,

Thanks for asking who is going to finish the work, if any free contributor to the free encyclopaedia, who just wants to contribute as honestly than volontarily, gets blocked again and again by Les Meloures. I don't have the answer. I can only see, that there is a guy, full of fury, who might have some talent and merits, but who at the same time seems to believe that he is above the rules: he decides ALL ALONE and WHENEVER HE WANTS who is right, what is correct, how things should look like, etc. He must be omniscient, a kind of divinity... OR lb.wikipedia has got a big problem.

Arbitrary or despotic behaviour is wrong in the scope of Wikipedia as well as in any other field, and I wonder why the other administrators of lb.wikipedia longer tolerate the way Les Meloures is acting.

Kind regards,

Chris P. Rolls

Hi Wolwerène

Chris P. Rolls, or Chris or RD and known with several other names under different IP-adresses from IP:195.46.241.225 to IP:195.46.241.231 is the best historian of the world teaching us that a german noble man married his own mother. Thats a nice history, in the pure sense of the word. And if this man says that lb.wikipedia has got a big problem I believe him and as in fact no admin wonders about such assertions I think that Wiki:lb has really a big problem. But instead of stopping such users they let continue him (her) creating new articles that need to be reformated, corrected and completed by other people. --Pierrenilles (Diskussioun) 07:51, 14. Jul. 2018 (UTC)

Infobox

Hi Wlowerène, This Infobox ---Infobox Foussball Biographie--- was created especially for football-players. It is used only once. Do you think we schouldn't use it or what's your meaning about. (not a good thing?, should be changed or completed? must have more automatic links to wikidata?) --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 09:51, 17. Jul. 2018 (UTC)

• Moien. Personally for me I'd like to use Wikidata-friendly templates. Filling infoboxes manually is uncomfortable, it's killing time. I spend around half an hour creating even small articles, with formulation of sentences, seaching sources and other minor tasks, I have no a big wish to adding data in a template manually.

Of course it would be nice to adapt the football template to the Wikidata environment, but if nobody wants to work on it, the 'standard' template for sportspeople is enough for me too. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 11:41, 17. Jul. 2018 (UTC)

Ok I will see what wee can do to have more automatic access. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 11:56, 17. Jul. 2018 (UTC)

Eisebunner

Hi Wolwerène,

Wha's for you the difference between Eisebunner and Eisebunnspersonal? --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 09:43, 20. Jul. 2018 (UTC)

• Look at interwikis, as I understand 'Eisebunnspersonal' is reserved for all railroad-related occupations and normally that category should have the name 'Beruffer (Eisebunn)'.

Eisebunner is for me an engeneer who manages the train communications. Eisebunnspersonal are not only engeneers but also e.g. train conductor, train driver, etc. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 09:55, 20. Jul. 2018 (UTC)

Its not my view, and at least not the sens of the word. In Luxemburgish Eisebunner (fr:cheminot) means every people working for the train-company, as e Schmelzert is for people working in metallurgical facilities.

As it groups all the railroad occupations it may be a parallel-category but not a subcategory of --Beruffer-- where al different occupations are related. Also railroad companies as of CFL call every job e Beruff. So i think me should operate only with one categorie. On the other side I think that we should make the difference by country for Eisebunner. b.g. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 10:21, 20. Jul. 2018 (UTC)

I just wanted to write once again, if English Wikipedians differ en:Category:Railway occupations and en:Category:People in rail transport, is there a sense to follow their lead? If not, which one of existing categories should be kept? Eisebunnspersonal as the 'older' one, or mine (Eisebunner)?
I'll make the difference by country, but 95 % of pages are anyway about Luxembourgian railroad people. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 10:28, 20. Jul. 2018 (UTC)

I understand your problem with the Interwilinks to categories. Our categories --Eisebunnspersonal = Eisebunner -- correspond to the en:cat -- Railway occupations-- and sou if we have an article about persons of a railcompany or who even did something else and we know that they where working also for a train company we should add the cat:-Eisebunner- and if possible Eisebunner by country, or if his job is known by specification than ad corresponding cat for this his job. The english cat --People in rail transport-- for which we have not yet a correspondant category, relates rather more to people in relation to rail transport and this even if they had never a job in a rail-company. All these problems were allready discussed several years ago when the cat:Eisebunnspersonal was created. I'm actually too busy outside of Wikipedia and this probably for the next two month's and so I can't do big chages in cats. (such work takes me evertime half a day and it must be done continuously, but for the moment I have only sometimes one hour continuously free fot Wikipedia. But I'm trying to find a solution por your problem. One of the main problems in our wiki is, that some ambigous cats are not defined. We noticed this and we will check up such categories and give a definition about what shall be categorized therein. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 12:06, 20. Jul. 2018 (UTC)

Hi, not all of the railway companies acting in Luxemburg were Luxemburgish. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 14:56, 6. Aug. 2018 (UTC)

Relevant

(don't tell me it's irrelevant, i don't believe you in advance 🙁)

to whom wanted you to talk and why? What's the sens of this message of the edit summary. I think that edit summaries shall give a short description of changes in text or a reason in relation of corrections that were done. As you see other users detect as well if an article is relevant or not and they give you support by correcting.

Did you ever have a problem with articles created by you and declared irrelevant by others? --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 07:57, 11. Aug. 2018 (UTC)

I explain. I noticed that sometimes a Luxembourg-related topic with many language versions but still without Luxembourgish page, may be considered irrelevant here for some reason. See e.g. Lëtzebuerger (under threat of deletion as Luxembourgers aren't ethnicity) or Lëtzebuerger Plateau (my page, I proposed for deletion because it's not really exist geografically but rather an invention by guidebook authors).

So in short, I'm starting thinking "If a Luxembourg-related topic ever was relevant the page about it would be created long ago, despite of number of interwikis".

"don't tell me it's irrelevant" actually means 'I think it's relevant but may be not'. I don't really know if it has separate relevance or it was just an English-speaking version of RTL Radio Lëtzebuerg.

I hope you understand me. But anyway I agree it was silly and I just can't get rid of the habit of chatting in the edit summaries. I know that it's annoying, moreover if it's written in English, but only now I'm going to fight my problem. Thank you for your notice. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 09:14, 11. Aug. 2018 (UTC)

If you hide the summary of this edit it would be good. Anyway I told you already that I just had an anxiety. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 09:35, 11. Aug. 2018 (UTC)

Sylvie Lubamba into Russian

Hi, thanks to helping into Luxemburgian, please u can improuving also into Russian? Just and no more 10 minutes of your precious time. Merci in advance!--Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino (Diskussioun) 15:03, 18. Aug. 2018 (UTC)

• Hi, I'm so sorry I can't promise anything. Now I only made a basic correction. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 15:16, 18. Aug. 2018 (UTC)

Kategorie:Krimineller

Sylvie Lubamba was punished for delicts not for crimes. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 15:30, 18. Aug. 2018 (UTC)

• But this is an offense against the law too. She was in prison for months, in fact because of fraud with bank cards. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 15:32, 18. Aug. 2018 (UTC)
  • Yes but this is not on the level of a crime --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 15:36, 18. Aug. 2018 (UTC)

Enseignanten / Pedagogen

Hi, whats for you the difference between the two? --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 10:59, 19. Aug. 2018 (UTC)

• school teacher / pedagogue in general sense. For me teacher/enseignant is a school worker by default, people of universities and colleges are rather 'lecturers'.

(E.g. in my mothertongue we don't say 'teacher' in reference to university pedagogues, I don't think it's different in West Europe.) --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 11:25, 19. Aug. 2018 (UTC)

Ok I see wee have different opinions.

For me a Pedagog is a person that studied Pedagogie and by this may be a teacher to other teachers and perform with them their skills in teaching ore to explore in a scientific way, systems of teaching.

In this sens a Pedagog is a Enseignant but not all Enseignanten are Pedagogen. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 11:54, 19. Aug. 2018 (UTC)

...I will be careful with those categories. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 12:56, 19. Aug. 2018 (UTC)

Alain Palluce

Why is he a trainer?

• I thought he is a swimming teacher but now I watched sources better and seems that I had difficulties with translation. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 18:25, 18. Sep. 2018 (UTC)

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Foussballequipe vun der Gemeinschaft vun den Onofhängege Staaten

Hi, the patterns ask for pattern-files that don't exist. Plaese see here. Perhaps you can detect which ones. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 08:00, 3. Okt. 2018 (UTC)

• This was helpful.:) --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 08:05, 3. Okt. 2018 (UTC)

Mazedonien

Please se the different meanings Mazedonien and be sure that your category-redirect hits the right one. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 08:29, 12. Okt. 2018 (UTC)

• I know that there's also Greek Macedonia, but look what's containing at Kategorie:Mazedonien (names of what's containing I mean). --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 08:31, 12. Okt. 2018 (UTC)

I see and think that's not the best we did. I think that the category should have an information to what it aplies. Whats your opinion? --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 09:34, 12. Okt. 2018 (UTC)

I agree. But I also know that there are attempts to rename the whole country of Macedonia, to North Macedonia or Severna-Macedonia. If current names are not looking annoying we'd better wait what will be decided about the official name of Macedonia, and then fix the naming of categories. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 10:10, 12. Okt. 2018 (UTC)

Template {{Iwwerschaffen + Läschen}}

Hi Wolverène,

I think you missunderstand the meaning of the template, this template needs no discussion on the deletion page, where as, that one you use should have one on that page even if you didn't insert it. That is why the template mentions that there is at least one reason to allow a speedy-deletion.

In the other template: an e gouf an d'Lëscht vun de Säiten déi geläscht solle ginn agedroen means that it was put on the page for deletion-discussion. b.r. --Nilrom (Diskussioun) 11:06, 3. Dez. 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for Claudia Letizia and a little help into Russian

good morning from Coreca, I am writing to greet you and know how you are. In addition to this to thank you for the timely intervention to my article. I ask you the courtesy if you could help out in Russian, as usual you are my trusted person. Of course if I can do something for you, ask. a fraternal greeting from Calabria to the Volga.--Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino (Diskussioun) 14:43, 7. Dez. 2018 (UTC)

• Hello Luigi. If you would like to create the page at the Russian Wikipedia I'll help you with grammar/spelling, but honestly I'm not sure Claudia Letizia is relevant by the ruwiki notability/relevance policy. The relevance policy in the Russian Wikipedia is same strict as e.g. in Italian or German wikis. And as you see Les Meloures is not very agree about her relevance for this project too although I'd like to try to defend the page. Best, --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 14:50, 7. Dez. 2018 (UTC)

Relevanz

Hi Wolverène,

I think that the argument with the interwikilink is a good one in a lot of cases but not if the article is done by the same user in five Wikis, and at least not in his home-Wiki. Why doesn't he do first in it:Wiki --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 14:49, 7. Dez. 2018 (UTC)

• This is a good question but I also heard that there's very strict relevance policy in the Italian Wikipedia. It's OK when you're creating pages about your favourite celebrity in other wikis in order to "immortalize" a person, but it's often very arguable if Wikipedia approves such an action. I have no unambiguous opinion... --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 14:56, 7. Dez. 2018 (UTC)

I can understand that someone wants to "immortalize" a person, but he must be able to do it without the help of the native Wikipedians and it should be a real good article with more than 2 and a half sentence. If we tolerate such article i fear that we will have more and more, and instead of working on articles intresting us, we have to spend a lot of time helping other people that want only to present their favorites. This cannot not be our target. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 15:21, 7. Dez. 2018 (UTC)

On the other side I think that he puts the article here to have later in the italian Wiki the argument that it exists in others. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 15:23, 7. Dez. 2018 (UTC)

I'm curious if it will be enough.:\ --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 15:40, 7. Dez. 2018 (UTC)

Hi Why do you remove the Kategorie:Filmschauspiller no Länner? --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 20:54, 10. Dez. 2018 (UTC)

• I don't do this everywhere, only in the cases of England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales. They are not countries "technically", as they are included into the "real" country of The UK. In fact, we had no common tendency about the inclusive of England-/Scotland-/Wales-/NI-related categories into the categories by country, so I'm making my desicion. Best, --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 20:59, 10. Dez. 2018 (UTC)

I think its not a good idea. This case was discussed by the community before we created these categories. They also exist for sports and other domains where these countries are considered as such. --Les Meloures (Diskussioun) 21:06, 10. Dez. 2018 (UTC)

It depends on an international organization, for example FIFA/UEFA consider them as separate entities, and the Europian Broadcasting Union and the Olympic Committee usually don't. The United Nations, probably the main international organization in the world also "works" with whole territory of the Kingdom and not with every its subject separately. You may return those categories, I just wanted to see the equability, but I won't strictly demand it if it has been discussed once. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 21:17, 10. Dez. 2018 (UTC)

Jean-Paul Sartre

Moie Wolverène,

By adding the "Infobox Biorgpahie" in the article of Jean-Paul Sartre, I noticed that in Wikidata his birthplace is indicated as Bogotà. The source in Wikidata is indicated as the Russian Wikipedia. Would you please correct the Russian article and the Wikidata entrance as Sartre was born in Paris. Thanks. GilPe (Diskussioun) 16:55, 22. Dez. 2018 (UTC)

• Moien och, it was a part of anonym vandal action, and Les Meloures reverted it. Of course there's nothing special that's written in the Russian Wikipedia about his birthplace. Best wishes. --Wolverène (Diskussioun) 19:32, 22. Dez. 2018 (UTC)

Merci GilPe (Diskussioun) 21:57, 22. Dez. 2018 (UTC)